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How organisations scale: What the scaling frameworks don’t tell you

This talk was previously known as Between spaces, scopes, and scales. It is based on Chapter 4 of Wholehearted: Engaging with Complexity in the Deliberately Adaptive Organisation (2025).

Instead of scaling process – making it bigger and more complicated – what alternatives are there? Only by understanding the relationships between different scales of organisation can that question be answered properly. In other words, before trying to scale, it pays to have a credible theory of organisation.

Drawn from Chapter 4 of Wholehearted and the Agendashift Academy’s two-part module Adaptive Organisation: Business agility at every scale, this talk integrates systems, complexity, and flow thinking (models such as the Viable System Model, the Cynefin framework, and Flight Levels) and shows how that with or without branded frameworks, many scale-related challenges reflect deep organisational imbalances that we can learn to recognise and address.

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Wholehearted: Engaging with Complexity in the Deliberately Adaptive Organisation was published in April 2025. “The Space Between” is the title of Chapter 4.

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References:

  • Wholehearted: Engaging with Complexity in the Deliberately Adaptive Organisation (Agendashift Press, 2025)
  • Brain of the Firm,
    Stafford Beer (John Wiley & Sons, 1972)
  • The Heart of Enterprise,
    Stafford Beer (John Wiley & Sons, 1979)
  • The Fractal Organization: Creating Sustainable Organizations with the Viable System Model,
    Patrick Hoverstadt (John Wiley & Sons, 2008)
  • Rethinking Agile: Why Agile Teams Have Nothing To Do With Business Agility,
    Klaus Leopold (LEANability PRESS, 2018)
  • Team Topologies: Organizing Business and Technology Teams for Fast Flow,
    Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais (IT Revolution Press, 2019)
  • Demand-Side Sales 101: Stop Selling and Help Your Customers Make Progress,
    Bob Moesa & Greg Engle (Lioncrest Publishing, 2020)
  • Cynefin - Weaving Sense-Making into the Fabric of Our World,
    Dave Snowden et al (Cognitive Edge Pte Ltd, 2020)

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